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Southland Tales is an ensemble piece set in the futuristic landscape of Los Angeles on July 4, 2008... more | full synopsis
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Directed by | |||
| Richard Kelly | |||
Writing credits(WGA) | ||
| Richard Kelly | (written by) | |
Produced by | |||
| Ted Hamm | .... | executive producer (as Edward H. Hamm Jr.) | |
| Oliver Hengst | .... | executive producer | |
| Bo Hyde | .... | producer | |
| Katarina Hyde | .... | executive producer (as Katarina K. Hyde) | |
| Bill Johnson | .... | executive producer | |
| Sean McKittrick | .... | producer | |
| Kendall Morgan | .... | producer | |
| Judd Payne | .... | executive producer | |
| Matthew Rhodes | .... | producer | |
| Wolfgang Schamburg | .... | associate producer | |
| Ernst-August Schnieder | .... | associate producer (as Dr. Ernst Augustus Schneider) | |
| Jim Seibel | .... | executive producer | |
| Dara Weintraub | .... | co-producer | |
Original Music by | |||
| Moby | |||
Cinematography by | |||
| Steven Poster | (director of photography) | ||
Film Editing by | |||
| Sam Bauer | |||
Casting by | |||
| Venus Kanani | |||
| Mary Vernieu | |||
Production Design by | |||
| Alec Hammond | (as Alexander Hammond) | ||
Set Decoration by | |||
| Tracey A. Doyle | |||
Costume Design by | |||
| April Ferry | |||
Makeup Department | |||
| Christian Beckman | .... | special makeup effects artist | |
| Laura Connolly | .... | key hair stylist | |
| David DeLeon | .... | key makeup artist (as David De Leon) | |
| Anna Fleiner | .... | makeup artist | |
| Louis Lazzara | .... | makeup department head | |
| Ermahn Ospina | .... | makeup artist: Ms. Gellar | |
| Rachel Solow | .... | hair stylist: Mr. Johnson | |
| Karl Wesson | .... | third assistant hair stylist | |
| Joy Zapata | .... | hair department head | |
| Laverne Caracuzzi | .... | makeup artist (uncredited) | |
| Veronica Lorenz | .... | makeup artist (uncredited) | |
| Danielle Noe | .... | special makeup effects artist: Quantum Creation FX (uncredited) | |
| Justin Raleigh | .... | special makeup effects shop supervisor: Quantum Creation FX (uncredited) | |
| Rick Stratton | .... | tattoo artist (uncredited) | |
Production Management | |||
| Tim Pedegana | .... | post-production supervisor | |
| Lowell Rottenberg | .... | post-production manager | |
| Christa Vausbinder | .... | production supervisor | |
| Dara Weintraub | .... | unit production manager (as Dara L. Weintraub) | |
| Bill Wohlken | .... | post-production manager | |
Second Unit Director or Assistant Director | |||
| Steve Buhai | .... | key second assistant director: second unit | |
| Mark Carter | .... | second assistant director | |
| Mark S. Constance | .... | second second assistant director (as Mark Constance) | |
| Mark Cotone | .... | first assistant director | |
| David Dwiggins | .... | first assistant director: second unit | |
| Michael D. Gillis | .... | second second assistant director (as Michael Gillis) | |
| Bob Kay | .... | second assistant director: second unit | |
| Tim Trella | .... | second unit director | |
Art Department | |||
| Richard Bain | .... | carpenter | |
| Mark Blumenthal | .... | painter | |
| Ron Cobb | .... | conceptual artist | |
| Larry Corralez | .... | on-set painter | |
| Guillaume DeLouche | .... | property master | |
| Drew Devine | .... | labor foreman | |
| Jorge Dorado | .... | laborer | |
| William Dorsey Jr. | .... | painter | |
| Scott Dougan | .... | art department production assistant | |
| Priscilla Elliott | .... | assistant art director | |
| Heather Elwell | .... | art department coordinator | |
| Zachary Fannin | .... | graphic designer | |
| Joseph Gray | .... | construction foreman | |
| Steve Hamner | .... | digital artist | |
| Mike Hinkle | .... | laborer | |
| Jay Kelly | .... | additional graphics and artwork | |
| Lane Kelly | .... | official website artwork | |
| Mark Kelly | .... | assistant props | |
| Mark R. LaPresle | .... | construction coordinator (as Mark LaPresle) | |
| Bruce L. Luizzi | .... | set dresser (as Bruce Luizzi) | |
| Victor James Martinez | .... | set designer (as Victor Martinez) | |
| James P. Meehan | .... | assistant to property master (as James Meehn) | |
| Brad Menth | .... | carpenter | |
| Martin L. Mercer | .... | storyboard artist (as Martin Mercer) | |
| Mike Miller | .... | carpenter | |
| Martin Milligan | .... | on-set dresser | |
| Luigi Mugavero | .... | leadman (as Luigi S. Mugavero) | |
| Paul Mugavero | .... | set dresser | |
| Phil Orefice | .... | paint foreman (as Phil Orefice II) | |
| Sam Page | .... | set designer (as Samuel Page) | |
| Caroline Perzan | .... | buyer | |
| Eric Rood | .... | set dresser | |
| Paul Schrauwers | .... | carpenter | |
| Angela Simpson | .... | construction office assistant | |
| Mike Slattery | .... | location foreman | |
| Benton E. Tedlie | .... | set dresser (as Benton Tedlie) | |
| Foster Vick | .... | set dresser | |
| Brett Weldele | .... | artist: graphic novel illustrations | |
| Robert M. Bouffard | .... | propmaker (uncredited) | |
| Caroline Perzan | .... | set decoration buyer (uncredited) | |
Special Effects by | |||
| Yves De Bono | .... | special effects coordinator | |
| Scott Dwyer | .... | special effects technician | |
| Ken Gorrell | .... | special effects foreman | |
| Matt Kutcher | .... | special effects supervisor | |
| Andrew J. Loprino | .... | special effects technician | |
| P. David Miller | .... | pyrotechnician | |
| P. David Miller | .... | special effects crew (as Paul D. Miller) | |
| Jennifer M. Sheppard | .... | special effects technician (as Jennifer Shepard) | |
| Ozzy Alvarez | .... | lab technician: Quantum Creation FX (uncredited) | |
| Frank Ceglia | .... | key pyrotechnician (uncredited) | |
| Kenneth Van Order | .... | special effects (uncredited) | |
Visual Effects by | |||
| Mandy Arnold | .... | digital restoration artist | |
| Adam Avitabile | .... | compositor: LOOK! Effects | |
| Lloyd Lee Barnett | .... | compositor: LOOK! Effects | |
| Gerard Bauer | .... | compositor | |
| Travis Baumann | .... | compositing supervisor: Gradient Effects | |
| Travis Baumann | .... | visual effects compositor: DigitalFilm Tree | |
| Travis Baumann | .... | visual effects designer: DigitalFilm Tree | |
| Travis Baumann | .... | visual effects supervisor: DigitalFilm Tree | |
| Chris Bayol | .... | visual effects designer: "Doomsday Scenario Interface" | |
| Joe Brandibas | .... | digital artist: Gradient Effects (as Joseph Emil Brandibas Jr.) | |
| Kevin R. Browne | .... | digital artist: LOOK Effects (as Kevin Browne) | |
| Merlin Carroll | .... | compositor: LOOK! Effects | |
| Shane Cook | .... | compositor: Gradient Effects | |
| Peter 'Beak' Cvijanovic | .... | compositor: Gradient Effects | |
| Enid Dalkoff | .... | Flame artist: DigitalFilm Tree | |
| Lakan De Leon | .... | visual effects editor: DigitalFilm Tree | |
| John De Sort | .... | I/O technician: DigitalFilm Tree | |
| Mark S. Driscoll | .... | visual effects executive producer: LOOK! Effects (as Mark Driscoll) | |
| Jenny Foster | .... | visual effects producer: LOOK! Effects (as Jennifer Foster) | |
| Bill Heiden | .... | digital systems administrator: LOOK! Effects | |
| Michelle Herrin | .... | digital editor: LOOK! Effects | |
| Jay Mark Johnson | .... | visual effects photographer: 360 degree plate (as Jay Johnson) | |
| Sazeer Kader | .... | CG artist: DigitalFilm Tree | |
| Tim Kadowaki | .... | digital artist: LOOK! Effects | |
| Ramy Katrib | .... | visual effects executive producer: DigitalFilm Tree | |
| Didier Levy | .... | digital artist: Gradient Effects | |
| Donna Madrigal | .... | rotoscope artist: DigitalFilm Tree | |
| Edvin Megrabyan | .... | I/O supervisor: DigitalFilm Tree (as Edvin Mehrabyan) | |
| Sean Mills | .... | digital artist: LOOK! Effects | |
| Michael Oliver | .... | digital systems administrator: LOOK! Effects | |
| Ron Ostir | .... | compositor: LOOK! Effects | |
| Shane Paugh | .... | motion graphics designer: Gradient Effects | |
| Raphael Protti | .... | digital artist: Gradient Effects | |
| Raphael Protti | .... | digital artist: LOOK! Effects | |
| Steve Robinson | .... | rotoscope artist: DigitalFilm Tree | |
| Matt Rosenfeld | .... | digital artist: LOOK! Effects | |
| Dan Schmit | .... | fog elements: Engine Room | |
| Tefft Smith | .... | CG supervisor: LOOK! Effects (as Tefft Smith II) | |
| Tefft Smith | .... | digital artist: Gradient Effects (as Tefft Smith II) | |
| Clay Sparks | .... | digital editor: LOOK! Effects | |
| Mai Suzuki | .... | digital restoration artist | |
| Thomas Tannenberger | .... | visual effects supervisor | |
| Olcun Tan | .... | visual effects supervisor: Gradient Effects | |
| Sherman Toy | .... | visual effects supervisor: Gradient Effects | |
| Justine Whitehead | .... | rotoscope artist: DigitalFilm Tree | |
| Patrick Woodard | .... | I/O technician: DigitalFilm Tree | |
| Jennifer Yu | .... | digital artist: LOOK! Effects | |
| Danny S. Kim | .... | visual effects (uncredited) | |
| Bruce Mann | .... | digital compositor (uncredited) | |
| Eric Moren | .... | laser effects (uncredited) | |
| Rob Ostir | .... | digital effects artist (uncredited) | |
Animation Department | |||
| Chris Bayol | .... | animator: "Doomsday Scenario Interface" | |
| Ryan Scott Wick | .... | animator: "This is the Way The World Ends" (as Ryan Wick) | |
Casting Department | |||
| J.C. Cantu | .... | casting assistant | |
| Bill Dance | .... | extras casting: Bill Dance Casting | |
| Barbara Harris | .... | voice casting | |
| Terrence Harris | .... | extras casting associate (as Terrance Harris) | |
| Jesse Jam Miranda | .... | extras casting associate | |
| Shalimar Reodica | .... | casting associate | |
Costume and Wardrobe Department | |||
| Alexis Fallah Abram | .... | costumer | |
| Robin Borman | .... | costumer (as Robin Rorman-Wizan) | |
| David Ferry | .... | costumer | |
| Nisa Kellner | .... | key set costumer | |
| Donna Marcione Pollack | .... | costume supervisor | |
Editorial Department | |||
| Travis Avitabile | .... | digital laboratory project manager: LaserPacific | |
| Patrick J. Barry | .... | first assistant editor | |
| Craig Bilsky | .... | digital laboratory project manager: LaserPacific | |
| Jeff Charles | .... | digital data conformist: LaserPacific | |
| David Cole | .... | digital color timer: LaserPacific (as Dave Cole) | |
| Craig DeMartini | .... | digital film scanner: LaserPacific | |
| Kyle DeVriendt | .... | digital film recordist: LaserPacific | |
| Valance Eisleben | .... | digital data conformist: LaserPacific | |
| Tom Garelick | .... | digital film scanner: LaserPacific | |
| Ryan Helsley | .... | digital intermediate producer | |
| Doug Jaqua | .... | color scientist: LaserPacific | |
| Jim Passon | .... | color timer | |
| Darrin Roberts | .... | apprentice editor | |
| David Slaughter | .... | digital film recordist: LaserPacific | |
| Andre Tréjo | .... | digital laboratory project manager: LaserPacific | |
| Stacy Underhill | .... | digital data conformist: LaserPacific | |
| Frances P. Valliere | .... | post-production coordinator | |
| David White | .... | digital film scanner: LaserPacific | |
| Lina Williams | .... | digital intermediate editor | |
| Daniel Yang | .... | digital film scanner: LaserPacific (as Dan Yang) | |
| Donnie Creighton | .... | digital intermediate producer (uncredited) | |
| Vincent Lavares | .... | digital data manager: LaserPacific (uncredited) | |
| Diane Wright | .... | digital asset manager: LaserPacific (uncredited) | |
Music Department | |||
| Gerard Bauer | .... | music consultant | |
| Roger Love | .... | vocal coach: Ms. Gellar | |
| Manish Raval | .... | music editor | |
| Manish Raval | .... | music supervisor | |
| David Raymond | .... | music playback | |
| Tom Wolfe | .... | music supervisor | |
Other crew | |||
| Noor Ahmed | .... | contract administrator | |
| Carrie Arnold | .... | assistant production coordinator | |
| Michael Asiman | .... | production secretary | |
| Sage Asteak | .... | production assistant | |
| Clark Baker | .... | production assistant | |
| Wayne Baker | .... | tyler technician: second unit | |
| Joshua Bell | .... | accounting clerk | |
| Elizabeth Benjamin-Rae | .... | stand-in | |
| Maxine Bergen | .... | script supervisor | |
| Kandice Billingsley | .... | key assistant location manager | |
| Donna Bizzaro | .... | production assistant | |
| Richard Bornstein | .... | electronic press kit | |
| Ray Braemer | .... | security coordinator | |
| Danny Bress | .... | assistant: Mr. Scott | |
| Deborah Brock | .... | production consultant (directors cut) | |
| Jason C. Brown | .... | production assistant | |
| Jennifer Bydwell | .... | product placement | |
| Kelly Carlton | .... | title designer: main titles | |
| Matthew Cassel | .... | location manager: second unit (as Matthew R. Cassell) | |
| James Churchill | .... | production staff: Abilene, Bopopolis Bros. Film Factory | |
| Kaiser Clark | .... | assistant to cast | |
| Travis Cohen | .... | stand-in | |
| Chandra Cohn | .... | monkey wrangler | |
| Charlie Collier | .... | set production assistant | |
| Victoria Coloruno | .... | additional set production assistant | |
| Michael Comfort | .... | electronic press kit | |
| Jeff Culotta | .... | assistant: Mr. Kelly | |
| Ron Davis | .... | payroll accountant | |
| Scott Delony | .... | production staff: Abilene, Bopopolis Bros. Film Factory | |
| Guillaume DeLouche | .... | weapons master | |
| Jim Dominello | .... | assistant: Mr. Rhodes and Mr. Payne | |
| Lynda Dorf | .... | unit publicist: BWR Public Relations | |
| Joshua M. Dragotta | .... | assistant location manager | |
| Jace Dwinell | .... | computer graphic artist | |
| Zachary Elms | .... | production staff: Abilene, Bopopolis Bros. Film Factory | |
| Richie Elson | .... | production assistant | |
| Fernando Espinosa | .... | caterer | |
| Antonio Evans | .... | set medic | |
| Glenn D. Feig | .... | legal services: Reder & Feig | |
| Jenny Fitzgibbons | .... | production accountant | |
| Dwarven Forge | .... | provider: miniature terrain | |
| Elise Freimuth | .... | assistant: Ms. Morgan and Mr. Hyde | |
| Justin Giugno | .... | production assistant | |
| Karen Golden | .... | script supervisor: second unit | |
| Angela Goodwin | .... | assistant: Ms. Weintraub (as Angela Goodwin Minuty) | |
| James L. Gowdy | .... | first assistant accountant (as Jim Gowdy) | |
| Casey Green | .... | video/computer playback coordinator | |
| Jennifer Hamilton | .... | assistant to choreographer | |
| Jennifer L. Hamilton | .... | assistant to choreographer (as Jennifer Hamilton) | |
| Julie Hansen | .... | post-production accountant: Film Auditors | |
| Judy Heinzen | .... | key assistant location manager | |
| Leo Hernandez | .... | security coordinator | |
| Isaac Higgins | .... | production staff: Abilene, Bopopolis Bros. Film Factory | |
| Karen Higgins | .... | production staff: Abilene, Bopopolis Bros. Film Factory | |
| Lauren Higgins | .... | production staff: Abilene, Bopopolis Bros. Film Factory | |
| Michael Higgins | .... | production staff: Abilene, Bopopolis Bros. Film Factory | |
| Michael Hird | .... | additional medic | |
| John Hirsch | .... | production staff: Abilene, Bopopolis Bros. Film Factory | |
| Catharina Hourcade | .... | production coordinator: Academy | |
| Adam Howard | .... | craft service | |
| Laura Howell | .... | unit publicist: BWR Public Relations | |
| Ali Jazayeri | .... | production financing | |
| Shea Kammer | .... | second assistant accountant | |
| Ryan King | .... | production staff: Abilene, Bopopolis Bros. Film Factory | |
| Ashley Kravitz | .... | clearance coordinator | |
| Shawn Kyles | .... | stand-in | |
| David R. Lawson | .... | construction medic (as David Lawson) | |
| Nanci Levoff | .... | provider: bulldog sculpture | |
| Dominique Liegy | .... | designer: tarot deck | |
| Raymond Mansfield | .... | dvd documentary | |
| John Mattingly | .... | production assistant | |
| Peter McKernan | .... | aerial coordinator | |
| Ralph B. Meyer | .... | key location manager (as Ralph Meyer) | |
| R. Andre Miller | .... | additional set production assistant: Venice Beach | |
| Zamin Mirza | .... | production assistant | |
| Michelle Ordener | .... | production staff: Abilene, Bopopolis Bros. Film Factory | |
| Sandy Parakilas | .... | contract administrator | |
| Derius K. Pierce | .... | personal trainer: Ms. Oteri | |
| Marguerite Pomerhn Derricks | .... | choreographer (as Marguerite Derricks) | |
| Marguerite Pomerhn Derricks | .... | choreographer | |
| Katie Pruitt | .... | set production assistant | |
| Michelle Rae | .... | military special ability | |
| Cindi Rice | .... | creative consultant: Dungeons & Dragons | |
| Benjamin Rigaud | .... | assistant: Mr. Johnson | |
| Robert Rizzolo | .... | production assistant | |
| Christy Robertson | .... | production staff: Abilene, Bopopolis Bros. Film Factory | |
| Dee Austin Robertson | .... | dvd documentary | |
| Larry Robertson | .... | production staff: Abilene, Bopopolis Bros. Film Factory | |
| Katie Rogers | .... | production staff: Abilene, Bopopolis Bros. Film Factory | |
| John Frank Rosenblum | .... | creative consultant: Dungeons & Dragons | |
| Sara Scarritt | .... | production coordinator | |
| Kristina M. Schulte-Eversum | .... | intern (as Kristina Schulte-Eversum) | |
| Drew Smith | .... | caterer | |
| Eric J. Spiegelman | .... | legal services: Reder & Feig | |
| Lindsey Stancliff | .... | stand-in (as Lindsay Stancliff) | |
| Chance P. Tassone | .... | craft service assistant | |
| Gregg Taylor | .... | production staff: Abilene, Bopopolis Bros. Film Factory | |
| Scott Taylor | .... | production staff: Abilene, Bopopolis Bros. Film Factory | |
| Jana Toepfer | .... | assistant: Mr. Johnson and Mr. Seibel | |
| Bryson Treviso | .... | production staff: Abilene, Bopopolis Bros. Film Factory | |
| Mike Tsucalas | .... | production assistant | |
| Sandra Valde-Hansen | .... | intern (as Sandra Valde) | |
| Lynn M. van Kuilenburg | .... | key assistant location manager: second unit | |
| Chris Velasquez | .... | security coordinator | |
| Jay Veltri | .... | stand-in: Mr. Johnson | |
| Derek Wade | .... | production assistant | |
| Amanda Walker | .... | production staff: Abilene, Bopopolis Bros. Film Factory | |
| Rick Whitfield | .... | video computer supervisor | |
Thanks | |||
| Michelle Andria | .... | very special thanks | |
| Mike Hoy | .... | special thanks | |
| Nancy Juvonen | .... | thanks | |
| Ali Larter | .... | thanks | |
| Jason Lee | .... | thanks | |
| Jesse Jam Miranda | .... | very special thanks | |
| Tim Blake Nelson | .... | thanks | |
| Dave Rhodes | .... | thanks | |
| Eli Roth | .... | thanks | |
| Kevin Turen | .... | very special thanks | |
Southland Tales (Germany) (DVD title)
Istories apo to telos tou kosmou (Greece) [el]
Kiyamet öyküleri (Turkey: Turkish title) [tr]
Las horas perdidas (Argentina) (DVD title) [es]
Southland Tales (Japan: English title) (DVD title) [en]
Southland Tales - O Fim do Mundo (Brazil) [pt]
Southland tales - Così finisce il mondo (Italy) [it]
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Rated R for language, violence, sexual material and some drug content.
145 min | France:160 min (Cannes Film Festival) | Argentina:160 min
2.35 : 1 more
DTS | SDDS | Dolby Digital
USA:R | UK:15 | Ireland:16 | South Korea:15 | Australia:MA | Argentina:16 | Finland:K-15 | Germany:16 | Singapore:M18 | Brazil:16 | New Zealand:R16
The policeman who says "flow my tears" is called Bookman. In Philip K. Dick's novel 'Flow My Tears The Policeman Said', one of the central characters is called General Buckman. more
Factual errors: When the home video at the start of the film catches a glimpse of the initial bomb blast, we see the flash and hear the boom at the same instant. Anything close enough to a nuclear blast to hear the boom at the same instant as seeing the flash would be instantly disintegrated. more
Vaughn Smallhouse:
You ever lose someone close to you, a loved one, in a terrorist attack? 'Cause I have.
Cyndi Pinziki:
This may come as a shock to you, Mr Smallhouse, but I have lost two people in Abilene. Two of my four ex-husbands, on a fishing trip, which they took every year to bitch about me.
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References Mulholland Dr. (2001) more
Oh My Angel more
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overly-ambitious? probably. puzzlingly dense? certainly. meandering and confusing? absolutely. SOUTHLAND TALES, richard kelly's much-maligned, oft-questioned, studio-crippled but still hotly-anticipated follow-up to DONNIE DARKO is guilty of most of the accusations that critics have hurled at it.
indeed, it's a mess - but it's one of the most beautiful, most engaging, most daring messes i've seen in awhile - especially considering the fact that this is a big-studio film with such an abundance of marquee stars. but it hits on many of the same themes that DARKO did - both metaphysical and spiritual - and that's promising to me, because it's indicative of a singular focus/concept that richard kelly wants to explore in his work. i once read an essay on the cinema of David cronenberg - i can't find it now, so i'll have to paraphrase - it mentioned that the best storytellers often spend their entire careers retelling what is essentially the same story, but executing it in different ways. with only two features under his belt so far, it's premature (downright offensive, some would say) to make kelly/cronenberg comparisons at this point - but if this kid keeps digging into the same subject matter over and over, he's eventually going to produce an honest-to-goodness masterpiece. and that really excites me.
think back to the theatrical cut of DONNIE DARKO, and how mystifying and enigmatic it was on yr first viewing. then think about the director's cut - did it feel "dumbed down" to you? like more exposition had been crowbarred in, so that the film would be EASIER for us to digest? there's some of that going on in SOUTHLAND TALES, and i'm forced to wonder if that was kelly's original vision, or if it was the result of studio interference. alternatively, the director might have gotten so tired of everyone theorising about DD, that he wanted to make certain plot points entirely unambiguous this time out. whatever the case, the end result is one the year's best films, in spite of (or perhaps because of) its flaws.
i've studied the graphic novel and the website, and i intend to delve deeper into both (including the ancillary sites). i might even need to see the film again before it leaves theaters - which will probably be soon, as this thing has "box office flop" written all over it (box office mojo reports a paltry opening-night take of $37,000), and has a "wide release" that includes all of 63 screens.
at present, we can be sure of a three things: ONE, SOUTHLAND TALES has so much going on, that it's literally boiling over, and it's going to take years for people to realise what a treasure this film really is. TWO, there is a TRUE maverick inside the gates of Hollywood, his name is richard kelly, and he's going to be here for awhile. and THREE, nobody rocks the cock like krysta now.